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		<title>By: logomania</title>
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		<dc:creator>logomania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thankful that movies are made. Atleast it shortened some process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thankful that movies are made. Atleast it shortened some process.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenMarie - Creative Curio</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenMarie - Creative Curio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the insight, Pat. I&#039;m with you, if I use an image I want to know I have no obligations except to pay for it! Things can get complicated if expectations are different on both ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insight, Pat. I&#8217;m with you, if I use an image I want to know I have no obligations except to pay for it! Things can get complicated if expectations are different on both ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as royalty free images there is no reason to feel the need to give credit. Photographers who sell images for stock are only concerned with getting paid for it and let&#039;s be honest you wouldn&#039;t have very nice or professional designs if you had to give credits for everything. I do a lot of my own photography so when I do ALL of the artwork for a piece I do get more satisfaction from that but what really makes a design is a Designer who is talented, creative and has a good understanding of design such as color, grids, typography and the elements and principals of design and knows what images to pick. I think where a stock photographer wants recognition is on the site where they sell their images and the best recognition they can receive is a high number of sales of their images. 

I was looking at one site for lower cost royalty free images when I noticed in their license explanation that some of the photographers wanted credits in work that the images were used in. That&#039;s when I went to their Contact page to inform them that it wasn&#039;t very useful for design if you have to give a credit. They mailed back and said only if you can. But you know what I&#039;m not even going to mess around with something like &quot;we want you to do this but only if you can&quot;. I want to know if I use an image that the usage is free and clear and there&#039;s NOTHING to worry about. 

As far as blogging and the web I always am second guessing what I do because I never want to do wrong by anyone. I think as others have said if you are promoting someones site and giving credit and a link that they most likely are going to be happy about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as royalty free images there is no reason to feel the need to give credit. Photographers who sell images for stock are only concerned with getting paid for it and let&#8217;s be honest you wouldn&#8217;t have very nice or professional designs if you had to give credits for everything. I do a lot of my own photography so when I do ALL of the artwork for a piece I do get more satisfaction from that but what really makes a design is a Designer who is talented, creative and has a good understanding of design such as color, grids, typography and the elements and principals of design and knows what images to pick. I think where a stock photographer wants recognition is on the site where they sell their images and the best recognition they can receive is a high number of sales of their images. </p>
<p>I was looking at one site for lower cost royalty free images when I noticed in their license explanation that some of the photographers wanted credits in work that the images were used in. That&#8217;s when I went to their Contact page to inform them that it wasn&#8217;t very useful for design if you have to give a credit. They mailed back and said only if you can. But you know what I&#8217;m not even going to mess around with something like &#8220;we want you to do this but only if you can&#8221;. I want to know if I use an image that the usage is free and clear and there&#8217;s NOTHING to worry about. </p>
<p>As far as blogging and the web I always am second guessing what I do because I never want to do wrong by anyone. I think as others have said if you are promoting someones site and giving credit and a link that they most likely are going to be happy about it.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenMarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you guys! It makes me a lot more confident to hear input from experienced designers. They never taught us this stuff in school.

I recently went to a job interview where they were questioning EVERYTHING I did! &quot;Did you take this photo?&quot; &quot;Did you write this copy?&quot; &quot;Was this piece really for that company?&quot; As a recent grad, I don&#039;t have too much professional work, so many of the pieces in my portfolio are &quot;personal projects,&quot; and I have only used one photo that wasn&#039;t my own, which got me thinking about using stock photography/illustrations. Anyway, thanks again for participating everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you guys! It makes me a lot more confident to hear input from experienced designers. They never taught us this stuff in school.</p>
<p>I recently went to a job interview where they were questioning EVERYTHING I did! &#8220;Did you take this photo?&#8221; &#8220;Did you write this copy?&#8221; &#8220;Was this piece really for that company?&#8221; As a recent grad, I don&#8217;t have too much professional work, so many of the pieces in my portfolio are &#8220;personal projects,&#8221; and I have only used one photo that wasn&#8217;t my own, which got me thinking about using stock photography/illustrations. Anyway, thanks again for participating everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Creativity In Action: From Boring To Magical &#187; Inspiration Bit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creativity In Action: From Boring To Magical &#187; Inspiration Bit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a side note: there&#8217;s a great discussion going over at Graphic Design Blog, initiated by Lauren and Tara, on when should we give credits for using someone&#8217;s photo. So [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a side note: there&#8217;s a great discussion going over at Graphic Design Blog, initiated by Lauren and Tara, on when should we give credits for using someone&#8217;s photo. So [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Tara and Lauren, and certainly something to seriously consider. I agree with Dawud when it comes to royalty-free... I think it&#039;s pretty much understood that offering royalty-free stock to others for general consumption comes with no credit. If you buy it, or commission it, you shouldn&#039;t have to credit it. David made a good analogy to tree surgeons. I guess architects or construction companies are comparable too... they don&#039;t get their names etched into a house or building just because they fabricated it. 

I&#039;m also with Dawud in that I generally include a link to myself in the footer of a client site, but they are never &lt;em&gt;required&lt;/em&gt; to leave it there. They paid for the design so really it becomes theirs.

As for celebrity photos or screen shots, the U.S. has what&#039;s called Fair Use. Basically it allows for use of a copyrighted work for certain circumstances such as parodies, criticism or reference. I think most countries have some form of this law, and screen shots would surely fall under it and would not require permission or credit. Not sure about the celebrity photos... it&#039;s a very subjective law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Tara and Lauren, and certainly something to seriously consider. I agree with Dawud when it comes to royalty-free&#8230; I think it&#8217;s pretty much understood that offering royalty-free stock to others for general consumption comes with no credit. If you buy it, or commission it, you shouldn&#8217;t have to credit it. David made a good analogy to tree surgeons. I guess architects or construction companies are comparable too&#8230; they don&#8217;t get their names etched into a house or building just because they fabricated it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also with Dawud in that I generally include a link to myself in the footer of a client site, but they are never <em>required</em> to leave it there. They paid for the design so really it becomes theirs.</p>
<p>As for celebrity photos or screen shots, the U.S. has what&#8217;s called Fair Use. Basically it allows for use of a copyrighted work for certain circumstances such as parodies, criticism or reference. I think most countries have some form of this law, and screen shots would surely fall under it and would not require permission or credit. Not sure about the celebrity photos&#8230; it&#8217;s a very subjective law.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud MIracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawud MIracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting conversation...

I really like what Aaron had to say in that the only person who needs credit is the client. The reason any of us - graphics designers, photographers, web designers, etc - want credit is for our self-promotion. There&#039;s really no other reason for it. Do you think the client&#039;s customers really care who took that photo or who designed the website? Not really. Not unless they&#039;re in the market for a service themselves.

I feel that once the project is paid for, the client owns it. Now, it&#039;s up to them to decide what promotion they want to do on their sites.

Yet, do I put credit and links at the bottom of the websites I design. You betcha. As long as the client doesn&#039;t mind (and they usually don&#039;t), I get a little promotion. But truly it&#039;s up to them.

On rights-managed images...I don&#039;t use &#039;em. Way too many hoops to jump through. I use royalty-free images a lot. And I know that the photographer has decided to offer the image that way so he/she knows that they&#039;re not going to get credited. Isn&#039;t that sort of an unspoken truth about royalty-free images?

If you think about it for a minute, social media in general is changing the way we think of images. With Flickr and blogging, how we use images is changing. Things are much more open today. And, there&#039;s so many bloggers using images wherever then find them it&#039;s going to be hard to police any sort of restrictions. 

I like things being open and without restrictions - as long as the artist gets paid or opts to give their images away freely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting conversation&#8230;</p>
<p>I really like what Aaron had to say in that the only person who needs credit is the client. The reason any of us &#8211; graphics designers, photographers, web designers, etc &#8211; want credit is for our self-promotion. There&#8217;s really no other reason for it. Do you think the client&#8217;s customers really care who took that photo or who designed the website? Not really. Not unless they&#8217;re in the market for a service themselves.</p>
<p>I feel that once the project is paid for, the client owns it. Now, it&#8217;s up to them to decide what promotion they want to do on their sites.</p>
<p>Yet, do I put credit and links at the bottom of the websites I design. You betcha. As long as the client doesn&#8217;t mind (and they usually don&#8217;t), I get a little promotion. But truly it&#8217;s up to them.</p>
<p>On rights-managed images&#8230;I don&#8217;t use &#8216;em. Way too many hoops to jump through. I use royalty-free images a lot. And I know that the photographer has decided to offer the image that way so he/she knows that they&#8217;re not going to get credited. Isn&#8217;t that sort of an unspoken truth about royalty-free images?</p>
<p>If you think about it for a minute, social media in general is changing the way we think of images. With Flickr and blogging, how we use images is changing. Things are much more open today. And, there&#8217;s so many bloggers using images wherever then find them it&#8217;s going to be hard to police any sort of restrictions. </p>
<p>I like things being open and without restrictions &#8211; as long as the artist gets paid or opts to give their images away freely.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron :: miLienzo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron :: miLienzo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha... very funny :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha&#8230; very funny :p</p>
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		<title>By: Tara: Graphic Design Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara: Graphic Design Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but how will they style that URL, that&#039;s the important thing ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but how will they style that URL, that&#8217;s the important thing <img src='http://gdesignblog.gdesignblog.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron :: miLienzo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron :: miLienzo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How ironic - the anti-spam word is Cinema...

I was reading somewhere recently (although can&#039;t for a life of me remember where) how pointless these credits are and very soon they could be done away with - certainly on television. Because a) no-one reads them, and b) if you did want to read them wouldn&#039;t it make sense to have them online somewhere so at the end of each program/film you just get a web URL rather than 30 seconds to 2 minutes of wasted air time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How ironic &#8211; the anti-spam word is Cinema&#8230;</p>
<p>I was reading somewhere recently (although can&#8217;t for a life of me remember where) how pointless these credits are and very soon they could be done away with &#8211; certainly on television. Because a) no-one reads them, and b) if you did want to read them wouldn&#8217;t it make sense to have them online somewhere so at the end of each program/film you just get a web URL rather than 30 seconds to 2 minutes of wasted air time?</p>
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